Multiple-stage tandem mass spectrometry and collision-induced dissociation were used to investigate loss of H(2)O or CH(3)OH from protonated versions of GGGX (where X = G, A, and V), GGGGG, and the methyl esters of these peptides. In addition, wavelength-selective infrared multiple photon dissociation was used to characterize the [M + H - H(2)O](+) product derived from protonated GGGG and the major MS(3) fragment, [M + H - H(2)O - 29](+) of this peak. Consistent with the earlier work [ Ballard , K. D. ; Gaskell , S. J. J. Am. Soc. Mass Spectrom. 1993 , 4 , 477 - 481 ; Reid , G. E. ; Simpson , R. J. ; O'Hair , R. A. J. Int. J. Mass Spectrom. 1999 , 190/191 , 209 -230 ], CID experiments show that [M + H - H(2)O](+) is the dominant peak generated from both protonated GGGG and protonated GGGG-OMe. This strongly suggests that the loss of the H(2)O molecule occurs from a position other than the C-terminal free acid and that the product does not correspond to formation of the b(4) ion. Subsequent CID of [M + H - H(2)O](+) supports this proposal by resulting in a major product that is 29 mass units less than the precursor ion. This is consistent with loss of HN horizontal lineCH(2) rather than loss of carbon monoxide (28 mass units), which is characteristic of oxazolone-type b(n) ions. Comparison between experimental and theoretical infrared spectra for a group of possible structures confirms that the [M + H - H(2)O](+) peak is not a substituted oxazolone but instead suggests formation of an ion that features a five-membered ring along the peptide backbone, close to the amino terminus. Additionally, transition structure calculations and comparison of theoretical and experimental spectra of the [M + H - H(2)O - 29](+) peak also support this proposal.