We’ve also thought about this issue at length and cannot fully rationalize how TGF-β can sustain (i.e., not suppress) CD25 in one setting, but restrict its expression in another. The most likely explanation is that it depends on the different combinations and doses of cytokines involved in specifying CD4 T cell fates. For example, it is known that T cell differentiation is highly sensitive to TGF-β concentrations and that different types of T cells form according to the concentration of TGF-β (e.g., Tregs vs TH17 cells, and Tfh cells) (Zhou, Nature 2008: Schmitt, Nat Immunol, 2014). Additionally, distinct signaling cascades downstream of TGF-βR (e.g., Smad vs. MAPK) may differ based on cell type or TGF-β concentrations (Park, Mol. Immunol., 2007; Giroux, Blood, 2011; Gu, PNAS 2012, among others), which could impact the expression of TGF-β target genes. Furthermore, the specific activity the commercially available recombinant TGF-β is likely to differ considerably between vendors and/or lots, and therefore it is difficult to directly compare one study to another simply based on amount of TGF-β used. Finally, rTGF-β requires activation (cleavage) in a 10mM citric acid solution and the efficiency of activation can be variable from lot-to-lot, not to mention lab-to-lab. For instance, the concentration of TGF-β (10ng/ml) used in our studies was insufficient on its own to maintain FoxP3 protein expression in the absence of exogenous IL-2 in vitro (), though it has been demonstrated to do so in other studies (Fantini, Nat Protocols, 2007).