| I found the decisions about whether/where to
combine/report primary and secondary prevention trials very
confusing. Primary prevention trials were not included in the pooled
analysis, but were included in the discussion as a reported
individual study. Thus, comparisons were made between secondary and
primary prevention without explicitly labeling it as such. For
example, on p 4 it states that “we did not find evidence in the
pooled analysis of smaller trials that vitamin E… had a significant
effect on all cause mortality. However, a 20% reduction in mortality
was reported in the ATBC and Linxian trials…” When I first read this
I assumed the distinction was being made on the basis of size: by
what was seen in smaller trials versus larger trials. But later I
realized that the “pooled analysis of smaller trials” included only
secondary prevention trials, and ATBC and Linxian are primary
prevention trials; thus the distinction was really by type of study. | We have tried to make these distinctions clearer in
their revision. The decisions were based on sample size. However,
this also had the effect of segregating the primary prevention
trials from the secondary prevention trials. |
|
| It appears a serious oversight that the definition of
antioxidant nutrients and the evaluative criteria necessary for
determining antioxidant activity developed by the Institute of
Medicine (IOM) Food and Nutrition Board was omitted from the report.
Incorporate note into. | Added description of antioxidants and supplements based
on IOM and added reference. |
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| Definition of antioxidants. I am not familiar with the
reference cited (Ternay, 1997) and wonder whether a more appropriate
definition might be the one developed by the IOM (IOM, 2000 - DRIs
for Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Selenium, and Carotenoids). | Added description of antioxidants and supplements based
on IOM and added reference. |
|
| Similarly, the discussion on the Safety of Antioxidant
Supplementation ignores the IOM establishment of the DRI Tolerable
Upper Intake Levels (UL), their value in clinical and CAM practice,
and their implication for future research studies. | Change made to the Introduction section. |
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| First paragraph under “Safety”. Suggest qualifying the
number of reports (few, several, many?) that have been cited as a
true potential interaction from those of documented interactions.
100–800 IU/day are considered safe in short-term; long-term doses
>800 IU/day may adversely affect platelet function and doses
>1200 IU/day may interfere with vitamin K functions. IOM
upper tolerable limit is set at 1000 IU. | We were unclear of the reviewer's distinction between
true potential interaction and documented interaction and could not
respond to this comment. We did add a sentence about IOM upper
tolerable limit. |
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| There is literature suggesting a risk for vitamin E
that is not described and that is probably due to increased
bleeding. Particularly the ATBC study quoted to provide benefit of
vitamin E. In that study vitamin E was associated with increase risk
of hemorrhagic strokes by 50% (p=0.07) and fatal subarachnoid
bleeding (Leppala JM, et al. Art Thromb Vasc Biol. 2000;20:230).
Additionally, an increase in colorectal adenomas was found in ATBC
possibly related to bleeding and increase use of colonoscopy (Malila
et al. Cancer Epidemiol, Biomarkers and Prevention. 1999;8:489). | Malila article not in this report's bibliography.
Change made. |
|
| It is clear what was done and I am able to understand
what it is you did in order to produce the report. I agree with some
but not all of the methods, findings, and conclusions. | No response. |
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| My main issue is that I feel there is too much focus on
the few suggestions of benefit, with recommendations that trials be
done to confirm these findings, without acknowledgement that in the
context of the totality of the evidence, these could well be due to
chance. In addition, I still have a philosophic disagreement about
such an emphasis on meta-analysis. It just felt disappointing in
terms of the amount of information provided to think from the title
we'd get a review of all cardiovascular disease and risk factors for
three agents, and get only vitamin E, death and MI, and lipids. | We have endeavored to keep the conclusions balanced
between the negative and positive findings/results. We have also
included in this revision a narrative review of studies on vitamin C
and coenzyme Q10. |
|
| It was never stated explicitly why supplements of
vitamin C, vitamin E, and coenzyme Q10 are considered under the
purview of Complementary and Alternative Medicine. If the vitamin C
or E were, for example, being obtained by consuming foods rich in
these vitamins, they would not, I assume, be considered CAM. Are
they considered CAM then, solely because they are being taken as
supplements? This should be clarified. | The sponsor (NCCAM) identified for us that the use of
these antioxidants as supplements were CAM. |
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| Purpose: Opening sentences. I do not consider the use
of antioxidants, notably vitamin C and E, necessarily as CAM
treatments. These “nutrients” have been studied for decades and
Dietary Reference Intakes (DRIs) have been established for them.
Perhaps if you wish to describe them as a CAM modality, include
additional text to the effect “in mega-doses” or in doses greatly
exceeding the recommended intakes." | See previous reply. |
|
| The just-published WAVE trial (JAMA,
11/10/02) should be included in the report. | A brief description of results of this study added to
results section. |
|
| While this reviewer appreciates the requirement to
impose a cut-off period in preparing a document such as this,
inclusion of the WAVE trial results (Waters et al.
JAMA 2002;288:2432-40) would further strengthen the
null conclusions of this report. | See previous reply. |
|
| It would have been useful to know the gender
distribution of the participants of the major studies. | We did not collect these data at the time of data
extraction and cannot go back and collect it at this time. |
|
| I could not find notations on the formulation of agent
used in the trial (eg., for vitamin E, was it synthetic or natural
source). This would be helpful when you start talking about this
issue under Future Research. | Not all of the included reports specify the source of
the agent used in the trial. We included in future research that it
would be desirable for any new studies to contain this
information. |
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| It would be easier to follow if the text and the
relevant tables and figures were presented together. | AHRQ requires in their formatting guidelines that we
present all tables and figures at the ends of each chapter. |
|
| The major strength of this report is its exhaustive and
detailed review of the available literature of clinical trials of
vitamins C and E and CVD. The major limitation is the absence of a
qualitative assessment of this literature, including the distinction
between the mechanisms of antioxidant action which may be pertinent
to primary prevention of the initiation and progression of CVD
lesions versus secondary prevention (maintenance or regression) of
established lesions and recurrent event outcomes and death. Within
the specific objectives of this report, the available information on
vitamin C and coQ was so limited as to make sound conclusions
(beyond the need for more research) impossible. | This revision now includes more information about
vitamin C and coenzyme Q10. The mechanism of action was not given to
us as one of the key questions from the sponsor. |
|
| I think it is unfortunate that the investigators chose
to limit their analyses to the effects of the 3 antioxidants on
mortality, MIs, or lipids. Although this is fine for vitamin E, for
which there were an adequate number of studies to address these
outcomes, the value of the report is limited with regard to vitamin
C and coenzyme Q, for which few (if any) relevant studies were
identified. Given the lack of mortality trials, it would have been
helpful to review and analyze available data for other outcomes. For
example, there have recently been 2 randomized trials of coenzyme Q
in patients with heart failure (Khatta et al, Ann Intern Med
2000;132:636-40; Watson et al J Am Coll Cardiol 1999;33:1549-52),
both of which provide clinically relevant data. | We included in the revision an expanded description of
the vitamin C and coenzyme Q trials in the results section. |
|
| The major strengths of this report are that it is
comprehensive, thorough, sophisticated in its methodology and
statistical approach, and clearly written. The major limitation is
that no insights are provided about the current state of knowledge
regarding vitamin C and coenzyme Q. Although this limitation is
related principally to the lack of published data, it is also in
part related to the relatively narrow focus of the report with
regard to clinically relevant outcomes. | See previous reply. |
|
| The selection of relevant studies of vitamin E in CVD
appears appropriate and complete. However, the descriptions of
studies with vitamin C and coenzyme Q10 are either very brief or
altogether absent. While the report makes clear there are a limited
number of such studies, the Results listings in the Table of
Contents reveals not a single section is devoted to these two
nutrients. | See previous reply. |
|
| The title that infers the review will include coenzyme
Q10. It is unclear why you did not summarize the results of studies
of coenzyme Q10 as used in congestive heart failure, state your
opinion of the evidence or lack of evidence, and recommend future
studies. | See previous reply. |
|
| The title suggests that the report will address the
effects of vitamin C, vitamin E and coenzyme Q10 in cardiovascular
disease. It does give an excellent overview of our understanding of
the antioxidant activities of all three but then concentrates
exclusively on the clinical trials of vitamin E. This is not made
clear in the structured abstract or introduction. | See previous reply. |
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| Selection Criteria: “Studies were also included if they
affected known risk factors for cardiovascular disease such as blood
lipids or hypertension.” Suggest the inclusion of left ventricular
hypertrophy (LVH) and ejection fraction is included as an outcome
for the coenzyme Q10 heart failure studies as the literature would
not suggest that coenzyme Q10 plays a significant role in reducing
stroke or CAD. Your reference 88 (Soja and Mortensen, 1997) cited on
page 21 indicates such. | See previous reply. |
|
| Description of coenzyme Q10 studies. Do not understand
the comment that trials could not be pooled due to heterogeneity in
population type when the referenced studies are in patients with
heart failure and the data tables (page 93) list the population as
“unspecified.” Two studies had insufficient follow-up time (less
than six months). If a more appropriate outcome measure were used,
such as LVH, or ejection fraction, or possibly change in New York
Heart Association Class function, three months might be a sufficient
time period for study. (Franklin Rosenfeldt, Victoria, Australia has
recently performed a meta-analysis on 7 trials that were double
blind and placebo-controlled using a three month time point). | See previous reply. |
|
| Looking at the Conclusions on p. viii and the Findings
on p 4, they only mention vitamin E. Nothing is said about the other
two agents of interest (vitamin C and coenzyme Q10), even to say
that there were no trials of these agents that could be reviewed. I
think an explicit statement about each agent needs to be included in
the Summary, and the Conclusions. | See previous reply. |
|
| The stated objective of the report included a review of
the efficacy of the three antioxidants for the prevention and
treatment of cardiovascular disease (CVD) or its risk factors.
However, virtually the entire focus of this effort is devoted to
three outcomes: death, MI, and/or blood lipid levels. Thus, other
research approaches involving human studies (or even cell cultures
and animal models) and examining other biomarkers of CVD risk (such
as resistance to LDL oxidation, vascular reactivity, No production,
hypertension, anti-platelet activity, carotid artery intima-media
thickness, smooth muscle cell proliferation, oxidative stress,
etc.), although briefly mentioned in some sections of the report,
were absent from the equation for evaluating potential benefits and
risks. | Within the resources available for this project, we
focused on patient outcomes death, MI, and only the intermediate
outcomes that were the best evidence supporting a direct
relationship with patient outcomes. Other intermediate outcomes were
not assessed. We did not assess animal studies or in
vivo studies. |
|
| Elevated blood lipids are an established risk factor
for CVD and are thus a reasonable risk factor to consider. However,
even a cursory pre-review of the literature would have indicated
that antioxidants do not have any significant effect on blood
lipids. | These were a commonly reported intermediate outcome and
a biological rationale from in vivo work, hence we
included this in our analysis. |
|
| While the selection of the three antioxidants was
determined by the contracting Agency for Healthcare Research and
Quality, more detail should be provided concerning the large body of
evidence indicating a putative beneficial role for the carotenoids
and plant polyphenolics (such as the flavonoids). This information
would help provide a better context for the question of why
antioxidants are an appropriate area of focus for CVD research,
especially future research. | Change made to future research. |
|
| As the objective of the report concerns antioxidant
supplements, particularly in the context of CAM, it is not clear why
so much effort was expended in the report detailing the relationship
between dietary antioxidant intakes and CVD risk. | This material was included in the Introduction section
so that readers could understand the context for the clinical
trials. |
|
| Regarding safety, in contrast to the statement that:
“For vitamin E, few adverse events have been reported in clinical
trials for doses up to 1000 IU”, it should be noted that large
scale, long-term, randomized clinical trials have employed doses of
2000 IU daily without indication of toxicity (e.g., Parkinson Study
Group. Ann Neurol 1998;43:318-25 and Sano et al.
N Engl J Med 1997;336:1216-22). | Change made to the Introduction section. |
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| Discussion of the potential adverse consequence of
vitamin C supplementation in enhancing the bioavailability of iron
fails to note the absence of data indicating this is actually a
speculation unsupported by in vivo clinical studies
or other reports. | This sentence was deleted. |
|
| Little consideration is given to such critical issues
as antioxidant dose or form, rationale of antioxidant nutrient
combinations, use of intermediary biomarkers of compliance and
therapeutic action, and duration of the studies. The differential
bioavailability and biopotency of the RRR - and
all-rac forms of a-tocopherol
are barely considered in the report. It is disturbing to note the
report provides obsolete and inaccurate nomenclature for vitamin E
(i.e., discussing the D isomers), fails to mention the new RDA
redefined vitamin E requirements to be met only by
2R forms of a-tocopherol, and does
not describe the central role of the hepatic
a-tocopherol transport protein. | These concerns are limitations of the empiric data
regarding what makes a study of antioxidants “good quality” and we
have noted in the limitations and future research that more
attention should be paid to these issues to determine if they are
critical to the action of antioxidants in CVD. |
|
| Discussion of dose-response relationships concerning
coenzyme Q10 is absent although the compelling data from Shults et
al. (Arch Neurol 2002;59:1541-50) suggests that the
null results from clinical trials of coenzyme Q10 in CVD and
Parkinson Disease may be due to too low doses. | We did not do pooled analysis of coenzyme Q10 for
reasons stated in the text. The Schults article was published after
we submitted the report. |
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| Please revise text and tables to consistently refer to
each trial by a consistent identifier (trial name) and use reference
numbers/author name to identify specific studies associated with
each trial. | Change made. |
|
| Was vitamin E given with food in the trials as is
necessary since it is better absorbed? The GISSI trial was performed
in Italy and a benefit was found in a population consuming a
relatively fatty breakfast not seen in the US. | This information was generally not stated in the
published reports. |
|
| This is a very clear and comprehensive analysis and as
with the cancer report, I am left with the feeling that your
analysis is far more rigorous and well executed than the actual
clinical studies being analyzed. The major strength of the report is
its comprehensiveness and rigor, while the major limitation lies in
the limitations of the clinical studies being analyzed. There are a
few studies that use vitamin C alone, and few that include vitamin C
in high enough pharmacologic doses to reasonably expect a clinically
observable result. The conclusions starting on page 61 and the
summary therefore, speak mainly to vitamin E and to vitamin E “in
combination”. | Only response is to add one sentence in the
Limitations regarding vitamin C dose. |
|
| The major strengths of this report include question
formulation and study identification. The major limitations are
study selection and data synthesis. | No response. |
|
| However, there was a critical lack of discussion on the
dose, formulation and quality of the antioxidant interventions used
in the studies that were included in the final analysis. | We have added to the Limitations that a potential
explanation for negative studies is that a beneficial dose and
formulation of antioxidants has not yet been studied. |
|
| Middle paragraph line 4 and elsewhere - you use the
words “unique trials”. What does unique mean in this context? | Change made in Summary and Methods. |
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| Were the coronary artery disease regression studies not
appropriate for inclusion as a separate category? You mentioned the
HATS study and another one. Two additional studies have recently
been reported which may be beneficial to incorporate - the VEAPS and
WAVE studies. Others ongoing are the SECURE, SMARTFED and MCBIT. | We could not find VEAPS study; the WAVE study has now
been included. |
|
| You state that there is a 20% reduction in all-cause
mortality in ATBC and Linxian trials. I think this is incorrect.
There is a 9% reduction in Linxian; you cite no results from ATBC on
all-cause mortality although I don't believe it was reduced (there
may not have been a 4 way analysis of these results). You ignore the
findings of GISSI on all-cause mortality. | This was a typographical error and has been
corrected. |
|
| Under all-cause mortality, I think both GISSI and
Linxian reported a 20% (not 70%) reduction. And the same for CV
death with GISSI (20%, not 70%). The 20% figures are given on p vii,
so if that is wrong, it will have to be changed there instead. | See previous reply. |
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| The statements (p. 63) specifying the 70% reduction in
risk of all cause mortality and CVD death from the GISSI and Linxian
trials is presumably a typographical error. | See previous reply. |
|
| There are, however, some errors in the summary
statements, the most important of which are on page 63, in which
all-cause and cardiovascular mortality are reported as being reduced
“70%” in the GISSI trial (it should say 20%). | See previous reply. |
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| Provide one overview table describing the major trials,
separated by primary and
secondary trials, which summarize the patient
population, interventions, follow-up and outcomes reported
(combining the various publications from each trial). The trials
should be organized by primary and secondary prevention. Within each
category they should be organized by interventions and size (or
whoever you choose). | Table added that summarizes studies based on primary or
secondary categorizations has been included at the beginning of the
Results section. |
|
| Finally, there are no references attached to large
sections of text (the Linxian trial). | Change made and reference added. |
|
| On page 36 the ATBC sub-population with coronary
disease is described to have been given 400 or 800 IU of vitamin E.
I believe they were given the same 2X2 factorial design with 50mg
Vitamin E and beta carotene or placebo as the remainder. The
description of vitamin E dosing is that in CHAOS (Stevens, Lancet
1996, and page 36). | Change made and reference added. |
|
| The purpose of this evidence report is stated to be to
identify and assess the evidence for the efficacy of three
antioxidants to affect cardiovascular disease or modification of
known risk factors. On p 8, cardiovascular disease was defined as a
number of conditions, and risk factors were defined as hypertension,
hypercholesteremia, smoking and diabetes. Yet for the rest of the
report, clinical outcomes of interest were limited to death,
cardiovascular mortality and myocardial infarction, and the only
risk factor discussed was lipid levels. The reason for limiting to
this subset of the original purpose needs to be stated. | For the vitamin E studies, there was a sufficient
number of clinically similar studies to justify meta-anlaysis. The
three outcomes - death, MI, and lipid levels - were the most
commonly reported outcomes in the vitamin E studies, and therefore,
they were chosen for the meta-analysis. For vitamin C and coenzyme
Q10, we limited our review to studies that reported clinical
outcomes or intermediate outcomes with good evidence of a
relationship to clinical outcomes. We have added at several points
to the text new language to try and make this reasoning clear. |
|
| 6 lines up from the bottom - 6% deaths from heart
failure - seems a very low number. It may be important to quote
lifetime risk of developing heart failure (see Lloyd-Jones et al.
Circulation 2002;106:3068-72) | The 6% number is accurate. We also added the lifetime
risk and Lloyd-Jones citation. |
|
| 1st paragraph line 4–5-9 servings - is this
per day, week, year? | Interval should be per day and change has been made to
the Introduction. |
|
| Selecting another popular antioxidant, such as
selenium, would be useful. I am surprised that selenium is
repeatedly omitted from these reports. It may be even more important
in terms of the antioxidant network and interactions among
antioxidants than the examples used in the discussion of
antioxidants on pages 14–16, for example. Although glutathione is
important in the network, it is an endogenous component that may or
may not be influenced by supplements. However, selenium clearly
interacts with and complements the action of vitamin E, and in turn
vitamin C. The evidence for this is quite strong and may be among
the most potent interactions in terms of LDL oxidation. Such
discussion may be superfluous given that selenium was not selected
among the supplements studied, but it is certainly an important
antioxidant to consider for future evaluation of the data pertaining
to antioxidants and disease prevention. | We cannot add new topics at peer review stage. The
topics were set by the sponsor. This is a good suggestion and has
been added to future research. |
|
| Second paragraph, reference #76 (Aberg, 1998) does not
appear to be an article related to statins but to Gemfibrozil - a
different class of lipid lowering drugs. | This reference has been deleted. |
|
| 12 lines down - ? compared with similar patients -
without clinical evidence of atheroma. | Change has been made. |
|
| Second paragraph under “Safety” first sentence, qualify
what you mean by “higher doses of vitamin C”. | Change made. |
|
| I am very uncomfortable with the exclusion on p 21
under “Safety of Antioxidant Supplementation” of the observed
increase in risk of hemorrhagic stroke with vitamin E seen in the
ATBC trial. To omit this at all, but especially after referring to
vitamin E's effects on platelets, seems inappropriate. | Change made. |
|
| Qualify what you mean higher doses of coenzyme Q10. | This editing error has been corrected in this revision.
Change made. |
|
| On p. 36 there is a mention of two different doses of
vitamin E in the ATBC trial - I don't think this is correct. | The reviewer is correct. This typographical error has
been corrected. |
|
| I could find no description of the Primary Prevention
Trial, although I think one sentence describing ceasing trial due to
benefits of ASA on p. 37 bottom refers to it. | Description of the Primary Prevention Trial added. |
|
| You say PPP and ASAP are secondary prevention - I think
you mean primary prevention. | This sentence with this typographical error has been
deleted. |
|
| First paragraph, sentence beginning “The former trials
(PPP and ASAP) are secondary prevention trials” on page 38 you
include the PPP and ASAP in the list of four primary prevention
trials. Were they both? Which is correct? | This sentence with this typographical error has been
deleted. |
|
| I disagree with the inclusion and exclusion criteria
used to select articles. In fact, I believe selection criteria are
applied in a manner that does not limit bias. Specifically, it is
unclear to me why studies of lipids and blood pressure are included.
Further, it is also unclear why lipids and not blood pressure are
selected for further analysis. | Lipids and blood pressure were initially included as
acceptable outcomes as they are intermediate outcomes with good
evidence of a selection to clinical outcomes. Lipids alone were used
in the meta-analysis as they were the most commonly reported
intermediate outcome with a biologic rationale for an effect. |
|
| The important parameters are systematically addressed
but I believe randomized design is under emphasized and other
features over emphasized in data synthesis (see below). In the
decision to conduct meta-analyses, I believe the key feature is the
randomized design. I believe that the decision regarding randomized
trials of vitamin E to separate small from large trials is poorly
defended, in part, because I believe it is poorly defensible. For
coenzyme Q10 also the key is randomization not length of follow-up
or use of placebo. Furthermore, ATBC was a randomized, double-blind,
placebo-controlled, 2x2 factorial trial of vitamin E and
Beta-carotene. The most appropriate comparison is all vitamin E
against all vitamin E placebo. In addition, the GISSI trial tested
vitamin E and omega-3-fatty acid supplementation in a 2x2 factorial
trial. To the best of my knowledge, no other antioxidants were
randomized in that trial. Finally, evaluating all vitamin E against
all no vitamin E in GISSI yields largely null results. | The stratification of trials of vitamin E based on
sample size was done because pooling all together would make the
overall pooled results totally based on the one or two very large
studies, i.e. the smaller studies would be statistically
meaningless. Rather than lose this information, we pooled the
smaller studies and compared these results with the large studies.
Regarding coenzyme Q10, we agree randomization is important, but
disagree with respect to blinding (since this can introduce bias)
and duration of treatment or follow-up (since the effects may be
transient). We are now more cautious in the conclusions drawn from
GISSI. |
|
| Many studies were excluded because outcomes of interest
were not reported, and it does not appear that there was any effort
to contact the study investigators in order to elicit supplemental
data. While it seems unlikely that these additional data would
materially affect the analyses, the report and its conclusions would
be considerably more robust had these data been included. | The resources available precluded us from seeking
unpublished data from the original researchers. |
|
| There is, however, one aspect of the data synthesis
that I find troublesome, and this relates to the analysis and
reporting of the vitamin E data from GISSI. GISSI was a prospective
RCT utilizing a 2x2 factorial design to evaluate the effects of
vitamin E and n-3 PUFA on major cardiovascular outcomes. A total of
11,324 subjects were enrolled, and in the vitamin E allocation, 5666
were assigned to vitamin E and 5668 were assigned to placebo. In the
primary paper from GISSI (Lancet 1999;354:447-55), it is stated that
there was no interaction between vitamin E and n-3 PUFA; therefore
it seems that the fundamental criterion for a 2x2 factorial design
was satisfied (i.e., independence of the 2 interventions), and that
it is thus most appropriate to analyze the data for the entire
population of subjects randomized to vitamin E or placebo. As
reported in the GISSI publication, there was no suggestion of a
beneficial effect of vitamin E on any major primary or secondary
cardiovascular outcome in two-way analysis considering the entire
population, a finding wholly consistent with the results of the
analyses conducted as part of this Evidence Report. When 4-way
analysis was performed, however (i.e. comparing outcomes across the
4 subgroups created by the 2x2 factorial design), there suddenly
appeared an apparent beneficial effect of vitamin E on several
secondary outcomes. I have difficulty understanding how this could
happen, and I am skeptical about the validity of these findings.
Therefore, I think that additional discussion of the GISSI data, and
its potential limitations, is warranted, so as to avoid giving the
impression that this large randomized trial of vitamin E showed
improved cardiovascular outcomes, a conclusion that is in fact at
odds with how the GISSI group itself interpreted their results. | We have noted in the results and summary that the two
way analysis of vitamin E did not show an effect and that the GISSI
investigators did not consider their data to prove that vitamin E
supplementation is beneficial. |
|
| Also, an important limitation of the report is that
individual patient data were not available, thus limiting
exploratory analyses of relevant subgroups. | The resources are not available for us to seek
unpublished data from the original researchers. |
|
| Within the confines of the objectives for study
identification, no crucial pieces of information were missed.
However, isoprostane should not be employed as a search term for
coenzyme Q10 (coQ). | This term was included in our search strategy, but no
titles or articles were selected based on this term, so this comment
is moot. |
|
| Search terms. Is isoprostane and appropriate search
term for coenzyme Q10? Should ubiquinol (the reduced form as it is
present in the blood and on the lipoproteins) and neuquinon be added
to the list? | See previous reply. |
|
| It appears that the intent to conduct a meta-analysis
on the three pre-specified endpoints distracted the authors from
extracting other relevant information from most of these studies. | The three outcomes selected for meta-analysis were
chosen after examining our list of all outcomes measured in all
reports. The three outcomes selected were those that were mose
relevant to patients and most commonly reported. So, while we
assessed whether other outcomes were reported, our findings
indicated the data were too sparse to support a summary analysis
either quantitative or qualitative. |
|
| I think the meta-analysis is a useful contribution to
this literature. However, in isolating individual outcomes from
trials, not all of which reported the identical outcomes, one loses
the context provided by looking across outcomes for a trial. I also
think that information from the 2x2 analyses, which may be
inappropriate for meta-analysis, should be retained somehow. I would
like the authors to consider how they might incorporate the results
of their meta-analysis into a discussion that addresses the more
complete data and context more thoroughly. The organization of the
text is completely driven by the desire to conduct a meta-analysis
of specific endpoints. While that is understandable, it defeats the
purpose of conveying any overall sense of the consistency of
findings within a trial. For example, the findings in GISSI that CVD
mortality was significantly reduced looks a lot less impressive when
one sees that there was no effect on overall CVD event rate.
Moreover, the significant result on CVD mortality in the 4 way
analysis (vit E only vs. placebo only) disappears in the 2 way
analysis (comparing all patients who got vitamin E to all those who
didn't). Similarly, the trend towards a benefit on non-fatal MI in a
subgroup of ATBC with prior CHD is similarly undermined by observing
that fatal MIs were increased, and that there was no benefit on
total CVD events. The insistence on using only the 4 way results in
the 2X2 factorial trials seems to have excluded potentially useful
information. Again, it was so hard to follow what was included, when
and why that maybe those results got mentioned but I can't be sure.
Lastly, one could take issue with the decision not to pool primary
and secondary prevention trials for MI outcomes - some trials
included in the secondary prevention like HOPE had some patients
without prior CHD. And some primary prevention trials had some
patients with underlying vascular disease (at least in some
analyses). | We have incorporated into this revision more
information about both GISSI and ATBC so readers can get a better
understanding of these trials. We also have tried to revise the
organization to be more clear. |
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| Composition of the Technical Expert Panel. Noted
absence of a nutritionist, expert in biochemistry/metabolism and/or
cardiovascular medicine. | The TEP for the NCCAM project was consistent from
project to project and inevitably did not include all the relevant
disciplines. These persons were included at the peer review stage to
ensure that their expertise were incorporated into the report. |
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| The searching strategies appeared appropriate.
Reference was made to the Technical Expert Panel (p 25) that advised
on search and inclusion criteria and appropriate analysis. However,
the expertise of the Panel as listed did not include either
cardiovascular disease or antioxidants, so their relevance to the
design of this report is unclear. | See previous reply. |
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| Extraction of Data, second paragraph. Comment on the
equivalence of units for data extraction. I'm very pleased to see
this but would like to see it taken a step further to equivalence in
terms of supplement formulations, i.e., synthetic vs. natural. I
feel very strongly that an attempt to standardize (for statistical
analysis) the doses used in these trials should be made, as levels
of bioactive ingredients are key. It has been shown that synthetic
all rac-alpha-tocopherol increased plasma alpha-tocopherol
concentrations only half as much as the natural form of
RRR-alpha-tocopherol, and degradation of the synthetic form is 3–4
times that of the natural form (see Brigelius-Flohe, Am. J. Clin.
Nutr. 2002;76:703-16 as well as IOM, 2000 DRI report for vitamin C,
vitamin E and carotenoids). It would be helpful to incorporate this
information in the data analysis tables (Tables 3-17) under the Intervention column. | While available for many trials, this information is
not available for all trials. We were also unclear how we might
adjust for differences in formulation or potency over time, so while
we agree in principle with this comment, we did not think we could
do this in our analysis. |
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| First paragraph. I don't believe we know the most
clinically relevant dose for the antioxidants, and again, dose and
formulation do matter. The dose and formulation used in one study,
i.e. HOPE 400 IU of natural alpha-tocopherol, may not equate with
300 mg of synthetic alpha-tocopherol used in the GISSI study.
Similar problems exist for coenzyme Q10 formulations as the
fat-soluble preparations have higher absorbability, which for CoQ10
is extremely low. CoQ prepared in soybean oil is the preparation
regarded as the standard for clinical trials. Doses over 100 mg/day
need to be delivered in divided doses, preferably with meals. | Change made: added to Limitations. That knowledge about
dose and formulation is inadequate at this point in time. |
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| I believe that the methods of study selection and data
synthesis in this report could potentially bias the overall
conclusions. In these instances, however, virtually all the data on
clinical cardiovascular disease outcomes from individual trials are
null (with the possible exception of CHAOS) so the conclusions are
not materially affected. | No response. |
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| I have trouble with the quality of the trials being
reflected in the “Jadad” score. While this is a formal methodologic
definition of quality, I do not see it as directly addressing the
issue of quality of the science or scientific design. It does not
appear that many, if any, high quality scientific trials have been
performed to examine vitamin C in cardiovascular disease. If that is
the case, it may be somewhat misleading to say that there is “no
evidence” for a beneficial effect when the clinical experiments are
biologically so unlikely to provide a positive result. | Perhaps not to examine vitamin C alone in the
prevention of cardiovascular disease, but we judge the MRC/BHF study
of vitamin C in combination with other agents to be both a high
quality study and to report good evidence of no benefit. |
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| The discussion among the scientific community regarding
the outcome of AO studies and CVD prevention is that we may have
approached the question incorrectly and studied (or compared) the
wrong subject groups. Perhaps the draft should incorporate somewhere
in its conclusions the idea that when subjects with relatively low
antioxidant levels are studied, a stronger treatment effect may be
found. | Change made to future research and Limitations. |
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| One of the objectives of this report was to determine
if statistical results from various studies could be pooled. This
was shown in most instances to be true with some important
provisions. As in the case of the SPACE study discussed above, there
may be problems with pooling some primary or secondary intervention
trials. When the results of studies such as VEAPS, GISSI or SPACE
are to be compared, it is clear that the subjects are very
different. Pooling such data may be too results confounding and is
misleading. | All of the following comments concern the suitability
of pooling certain studies. We agree that this is always a source of
concern, with no “right” answer. To deal with these concerns, we
performed sensitivity analyses, dropping the SPACE Study and the
study by Haeger. This did not effect our results. We also note that
the event rate in the placebo group in the GISSI and HOPE Study are
similar, and this supports our decision to pool these studies. |
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| There are problems with inclusion and exclusion
criteria for selected articles that introduce bias for
meta-analysis. For example, the SPACE study (Table 3, 5, 6, 8,10) (Boaz, Lancet 2001)
specifically addresses vitamin E in patients with coronary disease
and end stage renal disease on dialysis. The results should be
mentioned as evidence of potential benefit of vitamin E, but not
included in tables of secondary prevention or included in pooled
analysis. | See previous reply. |
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| The appraisal of studies is an area of concern. The
outcome parameters are addressed ignoring clinical status of the
subjects that limit the appropriateness of meta-analysis and
lumping. For example, in GISSI Provenzione (Lancet, 1999) all
11,000+ patients had a myocardial infarction (MI) within the
previous 3 months, in CHAOS patients had angiographic CAD and not
necessarily previous MI (page 36), and HOPE did not require coronary
disease and included diabetics and hypertensives without known
disease. While each is a “secondary prevention” trial, I don't think
they can be lumped without inducing a possible dilution bias. I
appreciate the Evidence Report Study Group would have considerable
difficulty with these differing entry criteria and thus the weakness
of meta-analysis. | See previous reply. |
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| Data synthesis is the area I am most concerned about.
There is lumping of studies for primary and secondary prevention
that introduces bias. For example, the SPACE study by Boaz, Lancet
2000 (Table 3) evaluates
vitamin E in a population with end-stage renal disease on dialysis.
The effects of dialysis on CV outcome are so important this study
should not have been included, albeit it did not influence outcomes.
Similarly, the study by Haeger in 1968 (Table 3) using vitamin E in peripheral
vascular disease was conducted in a time in which therapy and
diagnosis was so limited I would not include it. | See previous reply. |
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| The report indicates that evidence of benefit was not
obtained in the pooled analysis of smaller trials of vitamin E
(alone or in combination) and contrasts this null outcome with the
reduction in mortality found in the ATBC and Linxian trials. The
repeated comparative reference to these results suggests a less than
adequate appreciation of the difference between the secondary
prevention intent of the smaller trials and the primary prevention
objective of the larger trials. | We revised our text to be more guarded in our
conclusions regarding the mortality differences seen in ATBC and
Linxian. Normally we would expect a secondary prevention trial to be
more likely to show an effect than a primary prevention trial, all
other things besides patient risk being equal (which is the opposite
seen here). The “difference” in the results in this collection of
studies may be more a consequence of the ability to test multiple
subgroups in the larger trials. |
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| Little mention or consideration is given to the
increase in fatal MI observed in the CHAOS trial or the increase in
hemorrhagic stroke found in the ATBC. While these results may be
explained as spurious or described as unconfirmed by other studies,
these data must be provided appropriate emphasis in this report. | Change made in the Safety section of Introduction for
ATBC and the increase in fatal MI in the CHAOS study is already
indicated in Table 12
and . |
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| I don't think there was any bias, but the clinical
differences between studies are so great I don't believe a
meta-analysis or lumping is appropriate. From my perspective I could
see lumping the results of the British Primary Prevention Program
and BMC/Heart Protection Study. While HOPE and GISSI were both
secondary prevention studies, the HOPE study would dilute the GISSI
results because patients were lower risk. | Our calculation shows that the event rates in the HOPE
study were comparable to the rates in GISSI trial, supporting a
decision to pool. |
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| Meta-analysis of Vitamin E Alone vs. Placebo: first
paragraph, second sentence notes that “a fifth smaller trial is also
included in this meta-analysis” however this trial is not identified
by name or author in the text (but is referenced). This study was
performed in 1968, were comparable design methods and antioxidant
formulations utilized? | Change made and results redone dropping this study as a
sensitivity analysis. |
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| You include the vit E + PUFA results under the table
vitamin E + other vitamins. PUFA is not a vitamin, however, and if
it has any benefit it is probably not as an antioxidant but through
effects on thrombogenesis. | Correct, we changed the names of this category to
“vitamin E in combination”. |
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| In the first paragraph on p 35, the MASIT trial was
referred to, but there was no description of the trial in the next
section on “Details of Named Trials”. | Change made. |
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| The Linxian Nutrition Intervention Trial (page 36) was
conducted in a population of Chinese who were known to be vitamin
deficient to determine the value of micronutrients on esophageal
cancer. As stated the CVD outcomes were not the primary goal of the
study. The baseline clinical examinations and measures of CVD at
outcome are not at the same standards of the other studies. | This limitation of the Linxian study was added to the
Limitations section. |
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| Details of the “Named” Clinical Trials… In the text
description, if the details regarding formulation are not added to
the data tables, then you may want to provide the specific
formulation of the interventional agent (natural, synthetic, lipid
soluble, etc) in the text. | Change made. Descriptions added. |
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| There is an error on page 37, last sentence regarding
the MRC/BHF study: ASA should have been simvastatin. | Editing mistake has been fixed. |
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| Benefits of ASA? - is this aspirin? | See previous reply. |
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| Trial Inclusion. Perhaps some explanation on the
rationale for six months as the minimal appropriate time for
adequate assessment. If this were a statin trial, would six months
be a minimal appropriate time for adequate assessment for an outcome
of MI? Most statin regression trials run for at least two years. Why
would we expect vitamin E to be more powerful than a statin in
preventing MI? | As it turned out, mostly all of the studies had two
years duration of treatment, so this comment is moot. |
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| The description of the different ATBC analyses is
confusing. The text on p. 46 implies you used the primary prevention
analysis in the pooled analysis but I don't think that is true but
there aren't references attached with specific statements in the
text. | Change made. |
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| Third paragraph, first sentence. Please identify “an
additional trial” and its text by name or author and its respective
risk ratio as well as providing the reference citation. | Change made. |
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| You state the largest study was the ATBC - that is not
true for the subanalysis you rely on. The table and forest plot on
non-fatal MI make it clear that the two largest studies showed no
benefit on non-fatal MI. Only a subgroup analysis of ATBC suggests a
benefit, along with some other small studies. | The reviewer is correct. We changed the text to reflect
this. |
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| It is not clear why the ATBC results for primary
prevention portion are not included in tables but are described in
text. My understanding is that one of the analyses eliminated those
with prior CVD, so you could avoid overlap. Even if not, it is worth
including in table (not meta-analysis) with footnote if there is an
issue of overlap. | Change made to the “not-pooled” section of relevant
tables. |
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| Second paragraph, seventh sentence describing the other
study (not identified in text by name), which is a study in patients
following PTCA. Is this patient population considered comparable to
those in the other secondary prevention trials as PTCA increases
vascular reactivity and can enhance the disease process? | While the patient population was at high risk, we did
not consider this study further because of follow-up time. 3–28 days
was not comparable to the other studies. |
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| Summary - I think this section is inaccurate. You state
that the benefits of ATBC suggest a benefit for vitamin E alone for
fatal MI, when it is GISSI (according to your tables) not ATBC
suggesting benefits against fatal MI. For non fatal MIS, both CHAOS
and ATBC subgroups suggest possible benefit, but you state on page
50 that the ATBC results for the general population suggest a
benefit on nonfatal MIs. There was a trend toward benefit only in a
subgroup with prior MI, but no benefit in the larger population of
ATBC participants. | Corrected in text. Factual errors were corrected in the
results section. |
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| Last line paragraph 2 - “heterogeneous sample size” -
meaning? | Large differences between trials in sample size text.
Revised to make this clear. |
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| First paragraph. Last sentence - “attempts to stratify
the analysis by vitamin E dose level were not helpful.” This is
important, could the same be done for formulation: synthetic vs.
natural at high and low doses? Same comment for analysis of HDLs and
meta-analysis parameters. | The data are insufficient to support this
analysis. |
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| Second sentence is unclear as written. “A small
negative effect not favor of treatment was shown.” | This sentence was revised. |
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| The decision to pool clearly heterogeneous results
seems problematic, especially without some attempt to explore
reasons for the heterogeneity. The two largest studies show no
benefit, but the pooled result is driven by small, outlier studies.
The text could do a better job of explaining this result as it may
be misinterpreted. | We revised the text to try and better explain
this. |
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| The tables in Table 6 and 7 cite the identical number of deaths for GISSI results
under vitamin E alone and Vitamin E + other vitamins. This is
presumably an error. My suggestion is to delete the vitamin E + PUFA
results altogether but if you keep them (there may be a case for
doing so I don't know this area intimately) you need the correct
figures for that arm. | These numbers have been double-checked for
accuracy. |
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| The report's overall conclusion is that the three
antioxidants alone or in combination do not have a significant
effect on the treatment and prevention of CVD. However, these
conclusions cannot be made categorically as evidence from some
studies suggest that some protection is conferred and in some
instances AO use can confound or even worsen the effects of other
interventions. It is important to emphasize that further studies are
needed, especially using specific populations, to better understand
the effects of AO supplements. This is clearly indicated in this
draft and I find it to be among the most important conclusions or
recommendations of this report. | No response. |
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| There is insufficient comment about the potential
positive outcomes from intermediate trials or studies that were
complicated by multiple interventions or other complexities. This is
especially true for studies that used subjects with disease that
predispose to cardiovascular disease (e.g. SPACE trial). | This limitation was added to the Limitations and
Conclusion sections. |
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| Drawing conclusions on the potential role of
antioxidants in CVD prevention and treatment, as noted above, by
using only death, MI, and/or blood lipid levels as evaluative
criteria likely underestimates their true value by ignoring their
impact on other relevant parameters such as antiplatelet actions,
vascular reactivity, antihypertensive capacity, and impact on the
risk for related diseases like diabetes. | The intermediate outcomes listed by this reviewer were
not assessed in this report because their relation to clinical
outcomes (death, MI) are not firmly established. Within the
resources available to us, we concentrated on clinical outcomes and
intermediate outcomes with strong evidence of an association with
clinical outcomes. Whether lack of assessment of these other
intermediate outcomes underestimates or overestimates the effect of
antioxidants on patient outcomes is unknown. |
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| I agree with your conclusions but am doubtful surrogate
endpoints will be of any value. They encourage extrapolation to the
positive and don't address risk adequately. Physicians Health Study
2 will address long term use of vitamins. I favor targeting
well-defined high risk populations such as diabetics with CAD, a
high risk group that can be studied over a relatively short period. | Added to future research. |
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| The major issue with antioxidants is that studies were
stopped early because of outcome of other arms such as omega 3 fatty
acids in GISSI, ramipril in HOPE, and simvastatin in BMC/HPS. There
is a reasonable possibility that the benefit of antioxidants won't
be reached for 10 years. Hopefully, the Woman's Health Initiative
that is looking at vitamins will continue that arm regardless of
other results. | Change made in Limitations. |
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| The other issue is the potential for pro-oxidant
effects of vitamin E and the need for combining vitamin E with a
tissue antioxidant such as coenzyme Q-10. | This was added to future research. |
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| Also, on page 62, line 5, seven outcomes are listed
(not eight), and on page 64, line 14, it appears that the authors
mean “fatal myocardial infarction” (not “all cause mortality”). | Change made. |
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| Similarly, on page 67, line 19, “total cholesterol” is
incorrect; it should read “HDL cholesterol”. | Change made. |
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| I also disagree that further research on antioxidants
is needed with surrogate endpoint. Finally, as regards coenzyme Q10
depletion does not imply that supplementation will lead to clinical
benefit. For these reasons, rather than simply state further
research is needed, I would emphasize that randomized trials, not
observational studies are needed to avoid previous pitfalls with
other antioxidants. | Agreed |
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| First, since the population of RCTs is overwhelmingly
comprised of middle-aged white males, there is a need for studies
evaluating the effects of antioxidants in the elderly, women, and
racial/ethnic minority groups (esp. blacks and Hispanics). | Added to future research. |
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| Second, although this report focuses on mortality and
major cardiovascular events, other endpoints may be relevant in
selected patient populations; e.g. it is conceivable that coenzyme
Q10 improves symptoms in patients with heart failure but does not
reduce mortality, or that vitamin E has a favorable effect on
preserving cognitive function in the elderly (as suggested by one
study) without affecting mortality or cardiovascular events. | Agreed, although for the purposes of their report a
presentation of cognitive function would fall outside our
scope. |
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| While it is evident that research focused on
understanding the conflict between the largely consistent and
compelling CVD primary prevention data with supplements and the
largely null and discouraging CVD secondary prevention results with
supplements, this “paradox” does not include the “beneficial effects
of fruit and vegetable consumption”. Contrary to the statement in
the report that “It was postulated that the antioxidant component of
fruits and vegetables accounted for the
observed protection” (my emphasis), antioxidants have always been
considered only as contributing factors in this context, along with
other associated nutritional relationships associated with this
dietary pattern (e.g., B vitamins, fat, and fiber). | Changes made to reflect this. |
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| Further research is proposed to test “formulas which
showed benefit in larger trials”, however, none of these trials (as
chosen for this report with its selected evaluation endpoints)
provided sufficient evidence or magnitude of benefit to justify such
an investment in new research. Similarly, trial interventions
employing food concentrates fails to provide any guidance or
priority, e.g.: what foods? what ingredients? concentrated how?
administered for how long and to whom? | We have resolved this section of future research. |
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| The recommendation to determine if fruit consumption is
associated with other behaviors which cause benefit for which fruit
consumption is a marker is reasonable. However, it is not clear why
a similar recommendation is not proffered for vegetable consumption. | Vegetables have been added. |
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| The recommendation to repeat the interventions which
did show positive results is confusing as these studies (e.g., CHAOS
and SPACE) have already essentially been replicated (e.g., HOPE and
HPS) and shown a null outcome. | Agreed. Change made to future research. |
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| No suggestions for future research are offered which
prioritize single antioxidants or combinations for study. | We think this is best left to an expert panel assembled
by the sponsor and considering the results in this report. |
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| Similarly, although the need for “appropriate surrogate
endpoints or intermediate outcomes” for CVD is emphasized, no
suggestions are offered as to which ones might prove most likely to
be successful, e.g., biochemical markers, lesion indices,
physiological responsiveness, etc. | See previous reply. |
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| Importantly, it should be noted that none of the large
clinical trials have employed relevant biomarkers either to validate
them or to test the efficacy of the intervention (e.g., increasing
antioxidant defenses or lowering oxidative stress). | Added to future research. |
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| Suggestions for future research should include
recommendations as well for: [i] documenting full dose-response
relationships of the selected antioxidants (N.B.: doses of 1200 IU
vitamin E appear required to affect biomarkers of oxidative stress
and inflammation relevant to atherogenesis [Devaraj &
Jialal. Free Radic Biol Med. 2000;29:790-2]), [ii]
determining polymorphisms relevant to CVD pathogenesis (including
endothelial nitric oxide synthase, 12/15-lipoxygenase, and
macrophage scavenger receptors) as well as to redox states, and
oxidative stress status (and employing them as inclusion/exclusion
criteria), [iii] employing lower risk groups (presumably whom
utilize fewer concomitant drug therapies), [iv] exploring the
relationship between antioxidant and B vitamin status (as
homocysteine is a pro-oxidant), [v] the potential for adverse
interactions with pharmacotherapy (e.g., see Cheung et al.
Arterioscler Thromb Vasc Biol. 2001;21:1320-6). | Most of these have been added to future research. |
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| I believe the statement to be unwarranted that further
research is necessary to explain the apparent paradox between
results of observational studies and randomized trials. In fact, it
should be stated clearly in this report that for many, if not most,
expose and disease hypothese randomized trials are neither necessary
nor desirable. When searching for small to moderate effects,
however, (20–50%) the amount of uncontrolled and uncontrollable
confounding inherent in observational studies is as big as the most
plausible benefits or harm. In such circumstances, reliable data can
only derive from randomized trials of sufficient size, dose, and
duration. In my view, observational studies have been misleading for
vitamin E, beta-carotene, and postmenopausal hormones. | Agreed. The Future Research section focuses on
RCTs. |
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| Perhaps one of the most critical research needs is to
identify and standardize the test agent and administer it under the
most appropriate conditions. | Agreed. This is included in future research. |
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| The future research sections beginning on page 5 and
page 71 might benefit from some revisions. The meaning of the
following sentence at the end of “Future Research” on page 5 escapes
my understanding; “the observation that higher levels of vitamin C
were associated with lower death rate has not been confirmed yet in
clinical studies. The explanation of this apparent paradox requires
additional investigation as well”. By higher levels, I presume you
are referring to the serum concentration of vitamin C. If so when
one says “higher levels”, what is being referred to, higher than
what? Likewise, I do not see the apparent paradox. What serum
concentration of vitamin C do you think would be associated with a
lower death rate? | This section has been revised. |
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| In the Future Research section on p 5, it is stated
that a possible avenue of future research would include testing of
formulas which showed benefit in larger trials. There was no
discussion of formulas in the report, nor any information on what
formulation of agent was used by what trial. It sounds like you are
suggesting that, for example, trials with promising results all used
synthetic vitamin E not natural source (or vice versa). Is this
true? | This has been clarified. |
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| It is also stated on p 5 that additional research is
needed for vitamin C on risk factor modification and lower death
rate, and for co-Q10 on heart failure and cardiac surgery. It felt
like these recommendations were coming out of the blue, since there
were no statements in the preceding body of the Summary that even
mentioned C or coenzyme Q10, and no full discussion in the actual
report of an assessment of the status of the evidence of these
agents. | This revision now includes data about vitamin C and
coenzyme Q10. |
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| It was also stated that surrogate or intermediate
outcomes could be useful to do trials more quickly - trials of what?
For vitamin E, for example, I can't see any place to go with another
trial in CVD. | We have eliminated the suggestion to assess
intermediate endpoints. |
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| On page 71 I do not see the scientific logic of the
suggestion of using supplements such as food concentrates with
respect to vitamin C. Why would taking ascorbic acid in a food
concentrate be more beneficial than ascorbic acid? I strongly favor
the suggestion to perform studies to ascertain if favorable dietary
compositions are markers for other beneficial behaviors. Again on
page 71, is the issue of “higher levels” of vitamin C and decreased
risk of death would benefit from restatement. I don't see the nature
of the apparent paradox, nor is there any specificity of how this
should be tested. Should one give very large pharmacologic doses of
vitamin C and measure cellular and tissue accumulation? | This recommendation has been deleted. |
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| Bullet 1 it is said to consider interventions which are
intermediate between foods and isolated chemical supplements such as
food concentrates, etc. I was just unclear what that meant - could
you add an example of what that means for vitamin E and C, for
example. | This recommendation has been deleted. |
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| The third bullet says to perform careful “cohort trials
to determine if fruit consumption is
associated with other behaviors …” First, it is cohort studies, not
trials, and second, did you mean vegetable consumption? - or fruit
and vegetable consumption? | This recommendation has been deleted. |
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| In bullet 4, it is stated that in observational
studies, vitamin C is associated with decreased risk of death, but
that this result “has not been reported in the clinical trials
literature using supplemental vitamin C. Further trials could
investigate this apparent paradox as well”. A “paradox” implies that
trials of vitamin C supplements were conducted and did not show a
benefit on death. From your report, it appears there were no trials
of vitamin C supplementation, which means they have to be done, not
that there is a paradox. This needs to be clarified. | This text has been revised. |
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| Bullet 5 says that the interventions that did show
positive results need to be repeated to see if they can be
replicated - I think it has to be added “to see if the findings were
real or due to chance”. | Agreed. |
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| Top of p 72 says the most effective formulations for
some antioxidants, e.g. vitamin E, have not been clearly determined.
Again, this was not discussed in the report in terms of linking
results to formulations in completed trials. | This has been deleted. |
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| Comment: Since there are a number of ongoing primary
(PHS II, WHS, SU.VI.MAX) and secondary (HPS, WACS) studies, as well
as regression studies evaluating antioxidant use and CVD outcomes
how should the research recommendations be prioritized or qualified
so as to avoid duplication of effort or inappropriate or premature
recommendations for future research? Should all future studies be
required to utilize the same formulation of test preparation
(antioxidant)? | Change made to future research. |